Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Navneet Singh Khadian

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Neıl ☎ 10:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Navneet Singh Khadian

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Non-notable? Prod'd, disputed, reprod'd. Let's let the public decide. UtherSRG (talk) 16:54, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

• Strong delete - fails WP:OR, a nn person. The references mentioned are not proper & poorly sourced. The editors involved are trying to make close of other editors eyes by simply quoting Hindu news papers and all. --Tomb of the Unknown Warrior tomb 17:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. The article is well-referenced, and this is not a case of a person notable only for a single event. --Eastmain (talk) 18:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 18:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 18:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. The article is well-referenced with 20 references, Navneet Singh Khadian was a notable person who was the chief-general of Khalistan Liberation Force. I agree with Eastmain that this is not a case of a person notable only for a single event.Singh6 (talk) 06:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• Where are those 20 references? --Tomb of the Unknown Warrior tomb 06:59, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• Respected Sir/Madam, please read the article. Navneet Singh Khadian was also known as Navneet Singh Kadian alias Navneet Singh Quadian alias Navneet Singh Qadian alias Pal, and hence various references with a slight change in the first two letters of his last name are available on the web. Also, I have deeply studied the references before adding them into the article because Kadian alias Khadian alias Quadian alias Qadian was name of his town so sometimes his name had appeared without his town name as well. Singh6 (talk) 07:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
• Serious Issue - Please note that someone with suspecious User talk:Mightyunit name, who has just created his wikipedia user account on May 1st 2008, is continuously deleting references of this article (most-probably) to influence user views on this AfD. He has even deleted warnings from his User talk:Mightyunit page to hide these acts. Why Wikipedia adminstrators are not stopping him/her atleast during this AfD? Singh6 (talk) 07:03, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Delete - Sources mention him only in passing. Being involved in Khalistani terrorism doesn't immediately merit inclusion in Wikipedia. Not very notable. --vi5in^[talk] 15:44, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - Respected Sir, this is an encyclopedia, so even articles about so called terrorist groups have to adhere to WP:NPOV. Wikipedia administrator J.delanoy has clearly indicated it in comment 1 and comment 2 on Khalistani militants, hence! per WP:NPOV, you can not use word Khalistani Terrorism and you will have to a use words Khalistani Militancy only. Your using word Khalistani Terrorism indicate your POV views.Singh6 (talk) 13:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - Secondally, he was not merely involed in militant ogranizations as you have stated, but provided new articles/references prove that he was chief of Khalistan Liberation Force, making him a notable person.Singh6 (talk) 13:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

• Wikipedia Administrators, Please note that wikipedia's has also decided to Keep another similar article of chief of parallel militant organization, involved in same Khalistan movement, fighting for exactly same cause.Singh6 (talk) 13:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

• Delete or mention he was a terrorist.

Please do not get fooled by the number of references in the article. Half of these references do not even mention Navneet Singh: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9]

These references have exactly one sentence on Navneet Singh:

• [10]: "Two other arrested along with me were Navneet Singh and Nirbhai Singh." (NOTE: ihro.in is a Khalistani propaganda site. Please see WP:RSN#ihro.in.
• [11]: Sources disclosed that the other accused in the case, Navneet Singh Kadian, Manjit Singh and Gurjant Singh Budhsinghwala, active members of Khalistan Liberation Front, a terrorist outfit, were later killed by police in encounters.
• [12] "Rajendra was rescued by the police from a house at the outskirts of Jaipur after a shootout in which terrorist Navneet Singh Kandia was killed."
• [13] Out of six accused, Dayal Singh Lahoria, who was extradited from the US, was acquitted by the Special Court in 2001, while Navneet Singh Kadia was killed in an encounter with the police in Jaipur last year.
• [14] He was rescued by the police after a two-hour gun-battle in which dreaded terrorist Navneet Singh Kandiya was killed. Police also recovered a bag containing RDX.

This reference has exactly two sentences about Navenet Singh:

• [15]: "A key leader of the KLF's Navneet Singh Qadian faction, Bhap had reactivated contacts in the Jalandhar area in early May." "The last of these had been carried out to secure Deepak's release from prison, and a subsequent police operation resulted in the elimination of KLF supremo Navneet Singh Qadian."

It says "Navneet Singh’s associates were also involved in the abduction of Romanian diplomat Liviu Radu in the year 1992[12]to publicize their cause at the world level." But Navneet Singh himself was not really important in this episode. Please search for "Liviu Radu" and see if any of the news articles contain his name. The terrorists had kidnapped the diplomat because they wanted the Indian government to release terrorists who had murdered innocents[16]. When Indian government refused they still kept him to gain publicity. However, Radu was too unimportant a target for government to concede to their demands, so they had to release Radu unharmed.[17]

User:Singh6 is a Khalistani propagadist[18][19][20] and is trying to justify killings by terrorists. The article is written in a very propaganda manner to suit the needs of Khalistani apologists. The entire section "How he was affected by his surroundings" is synthesis of unrelated references that do not mention Navneet Singh.

If this article is not deleted, please mention that Navneet Singh Khadian was a terrorist (as clearly mentioned by all the references that mention Navneet Singh). 202.54.176.51 (talk) 07:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• Merge into Khalistan Liberation Force as the totality of notability seems to be derived from activity with and in this organization. Citations should be included in the merged article; everything above this post dealing with "propaganda" should be discounted for two major reasons - 1) anything cited should be in the article itself, not here; and 2) there is some poisoning of the well that is essentially a red herring for this discussion. Merging the two article might also alleviate the "delete or declare" (that Singh is a "terrorist" - a POV term, by the way) demand that is also raising the temperature in this discussion. B.Wind (talk) 05:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

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